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  They will be DFing me soon for apostasy...

  by RayPublisher in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well i figured i should give you all an update.

  they will be dfing me soon for apostasy.

  it is not a huge surprise and i am not afraid nor "shaking in my boots", however i will admit it is stressful right now.

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  Doubting Bro

  Ray, it sounds like your living my worst nightmare! Much strength to you. In the long run, this is likely best for your children anyway.
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  There's gotta be another faction in the Writing Department, either that or they can't see the irony.

  by Theocratic Sedition in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the past two week's worth of wt studies have made a couple points that appear contradictory in nature.

  yesterday was too much, i felt at least.

  either there's another faction within the writing department fighting for the equivalent of airtime in the literature, or they're all so indoctrinated that they fail to see the irony in what they publish.. for instance, take paragraph 5 from last week's lesson.. 5. unlike the law codes of many countries, "the perfect law" is neither complex nor burdensome but consists of simple commandements and principles.

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  The best part was the illustration of the bad boy greeting his friend with a fist bump. The conductor actually pointed it out as a "worldly hand shake" LOL - a bunch of people were making fun of that afterwards. I told one of my "friends", that I thought it was pretty ironic that they would have a study about freedom from detailed laws and then say you can't fist bump. He laughed and said it was one of the dumbest things he's ever seen.
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  The Decline of Elders and Ministerial Servants

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i seem to remember somebody saying that since the 90's the number of elders has declined from 90000 to 60000. does anybody have any hard figures regarding this?.

  the organization is desperate for "qualified" men.

  but their standards are much too high, especially the monthly field service hour requirements tagged on to endless meetings and congregational busywork.

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  amen cantleave! Even if I hadn't woken up, I would have still quit being an elder due to the things you mentioned
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  Here's the latest news on the Candace Conti case

  by God_Delusion in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  hi guys,.

  i've been speaking with kathleen (candace's mother) and with sami (a close family friend) and they told me the latest news on the candace conti vs. the watchtower society court case.. read it here - http://www.jehovahswitnessblog.com/jw-lawsuits/latest-on-the-candace-conti-vs-the-watchtower-society-case/.

  love,.

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  JV,

  I've been thinking about what you've said on the possible restructuring. What it sounds like is similar to the way the Baptists are structured, with each congregation being autonomous. That has served them well in terms of not exposing the "mother" organization to lawsuits but they give up a lot of control.

  I'm sure the WT Legal department would love to move in that direction and may even be recommending that course of action. But I just can't see them giving up that kind of control. Even if you make the local congregations their own legal entity (as is the case with many congregations in the US), the agency relationship would still apply if the WTS is still controling and directing management.

  Maybe I'm wrong here but I think they'd really have to give up control to break the agency relationship.
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  Yesterday was my Son's 21st Birthday

  by 00DAD in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  yesterday was my oldest son's 21st birthday.

  as many of you know, i've been disfellowshipped for over 3 years now.

  in the spring of this year i did write to the local boe and request my disfellowshipping be rescinded.

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  Doubting Bro

  00DAD,

  I'm sorry. This cult really does gut families.
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  The Myths of Disfellowshipping

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jj allowed me to send him an article for jwstruggle.

  i know this might not be everyone's cup of tea on jwn, and i hope this doesn't smack of self-promotion, which i find distasteful, but i hope it might bring comfort to some who have found themselves the victims of judicial committees.

  http://www.jwstruggle.com/2012/08/the-myths-of-disfellowshipping/.

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  Me too man, me too....
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  The Myths of Disfellowshipping

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jj allowed me to send him an article for jwstruggle.

  i know this might not be everyone's cup of tea on jwn, and i hope this doesn't smack of self-promotion, which i find distasteful, but i hope it might bring comfort to some who have found themselves the victims of judicial committees.

  http://www.jwstruggle.com/2012/08/the-myths-of-disfellowshipping/.

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  Well written Londo! The JW power structure is more like the Pharisees that Jesus railed against as opposed to how Jesus actually behaved.

  I simply can't imagine that anyone who has read the Gospels would think that Jesus would want people to behave in such a terrible manner.
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  Has anyone heard of "Secret Disfellowshipping" by Jehovah's Witnesses? Menlo Park Ca. Congregation. Update.

  by Balaamsass in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  no doubt everyone has been following the juan viejo postings regarding the watchtower kingdom hall "grab" on jwn for the last couple of years.

  called the mrs and me to say "wow- you have to google this" we did...came here to jwn ...became members..and the rest is history.. in the last nine months i have been calling and emailing contacts in the silicon valley for verification on the societies theft and forced sale of the menlo park kingdom hall (near the new facebook heaquarters) because the story seemed...a little far fetched.

  every reliable contact i made has confirmed what juan reported.

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  Really is anyone shocked? As soon as they fought against the WTS, their fate as JWs was sealed.
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  Latest WT: "Refusing to appear before a JC is like refusing medical treatment"

  by cedars in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the latest october 15th 2012 watchtower (page 13).... "because of what they perceive as defects in the elders, some individuals who engage in serious wrongdoing in the congregation have refused to appear before a committee of elders assigned to help them.

  this could be likened to a patient who loses out on the benefits of a treatment because he does not like something about the doctor.".

  sounds like they're now trying to stigmatize those who try to avoid judical action.

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  To avoid that kind of spirit, we can remember that Jesus is pictured in the Bible as having “in his right hand seven stars.” The “stars” represent the anointed overseers and, by extension, all the overseers in the congregations. Jesus can direct the “stars” in his hand in any way he feels appropriate.

  So, really the Conti lawsuit should have been against Jesus as opposed to the WTS since he's directly directing all overseers in the congregations to cover up child abuse. Good Lord, even the RCC doesn't go that far.

  I am amazed at how delusional JWs are. I used to think that Jesus was directing the elders until I became one and realized that I didn't feel anything different.
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  The Governing Body intends to announce significant changes in academic literature (DOCTRINES) - Brazil

  by Dogpatch in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear randall.

  good morning!.

  here is the daniel of brazil (former bethel).. this week at the forum of former jehovah's witnesses had an interesting news!

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  The more I think about this, the more I believe this is much ado over nothing. I remember when they cancelled the book study night a few years ago. The letter was read at a CA which was very unusual. The reaction? The loudest appaluse I've heard in YEARS.

  If they eliminated the D2D, there would be a standing ovation. Most JWs HATE it.

  They make doctrinal changes on a pretty regular basis and no one seems to really care. Their MO is to slip it into a WT study or a QFR then reinforce with CO talks, DC talks, and other WT articles. I just don't see them doing anything doctrinal.

  They're constantly making changes, so while I do think the school will have some changes, I think it will be procedural. They want to explain face to face and then issue a BOE letter with the details once everyone has had the "training".